两位开发者认为终端已被淘汰：智能体正在取代 CLI 和 IDE 成为主要交互方式
两位开发者聊了个反常识观点：终端和 IDE 都过时了，直接和智能体对话才是方向，还分享了他们自建编排器的实际用法。
Yuchen Jin 表示自己已经很久没碰 Claude Code 和 Codex CLI，认为终端不是编码智能体的合适界面，管理 30 个标签页纯属认知负担。他也很少再用 Cursor 这类 IDE，因为新基元是智能体而非文件。Elvis Omans 分享的做法是组合使用持久化高层智能体和专注型智能体，比如 codex desktop sessions，并自建了智能体编排器。两人都提到 Codex desktop 是目前较好的智能体界面。
Use of coding agents via CLI has been dead for a while now. We are early on discovering better interfaces but interactions now happen directly with agents and will continue that way going forward. What is working for me is a mixture of high-level persistent agents (like dots) and specialised agents (like codex desktop sessions) that are themselves managed by the persistent agents or accessible at anytime when I need to do focused work. This provides me lots of flexibility and I can leverage a variety of experiences and interactions with agents that range from the simpleness of grok bot to the more involved sessions offered by codex desktop. These again are some of the advantages I enjoy because I have built my own agent orchestrator and harness. Yuchen Jin @Yuchenj_UW I haven’t touched Claude Code or Codex CLI in a while. The terminal era is over imo. It's the wrong interface for coding agents. Tabs are ephemeral, but context is persistent, and managing 30 tabs is pure cognitive overhead. I don’t really need an IDE like Cursor either. I rarely navigate the whole codebase anymore. The new primitive is the agent, not the file. (Codex desktop app is the best agentic UI for now. But we’re still early.) 🔗 View Quoted Tweet 💬 8 🔄 2 ❤️ 12 👀 1356 📊 7 ⚡
