OpenAI分享模型数学思维过程
OpenAI's Mark Sellke and Mehtaab Sawhney on why they publish the model's mathematical thinking, not ...
OpenAI科学家揭秘Astra如何解决数学难题,包括改进球体堆积记录和证明非sofic群存在。
OpenAI的Mark Sellke和Mehtaab Sawhney解释为何发布模型的数学思维过程而非仅证明结果。GPT-5在5分钟内解决了Erdős问题,并发现了10个其他被认为已解决的问题的解决方案。Astra模型改进了自1970年代以来未被打破的高维球体堆积界限,并建立了非sofic群存在性证明。
OpenAI's Mark Sellke and Mehtaab Sawhney on why they publish the model's mathematical thinking, not ...
OpenAI's Mark Sellke and Mehtaab Sawhney on why they publish the model's mathematical thinking, not just its proofs: Mark: "We decided it was important to release these summarized chains of thought... If you've never seen these and you just see all these proofs coming out, you're not sure what it means." "Is the model just guessing in some insane way? Is it thinking in some totally foreign way? What's going on? But actually, it's reasoning kind of shockingly like an expert human would." Mehtaab: "It's very much like reading a colleague's notes. It's a little more disorganized in some ways." "Especially if you work close enough with a collaborator, sometimes you'll just see them spill out their thoughts in an email to you. It feels like reading a lot of those chained together. It's quite surprising the first few times." @MarkSellke @mehtaab_sawhney Your browser does not support the video tag. 🔗 View on Twitter a16z @a16z OpenAI's Mark Sellke and Mehtaab Sawhney with a16z's Lisha Li, on the state of AI and mathematics: Before OpenAI released GPT‑6 Astra last week, the model was already doing original mathematics. Recorded before the launch, this conversation tells the story of how it got there. It began with GPT‑5. Mehtaab Sawhney pasted in an Erdős problem still listed as open. Five minutes later, the model surfaced a paper that had solved it. The exercise eventually uncovered published solutions to 10 more problems thought to be open. Then Astra went further. Told to "go have fun" with a high-dimensional sphere-packing problem, it improved a bound that had stood since the 1970s. Mehtaab had spent six months on the same problem in graduate school and made "absolutely zero progress." Another Astra result established that non-sofic groups exist with a roughly 15-page proof. A related human breakthrough took 250 pages and machinery from quantum complexity theory. OpenAI’s Mark Sellke and Mehtaab Sawhney join a16z’s Lisha Li on why wrong ideas pollute a human’s context window, why polished papers hide how mathematics is actually made, why a breakthrough can stop one prompt early, and what math rewards once proving stops being the bottleneck. 00:00 Intro 02:44 Cracking an Erdős problem in 5 minutes 06:20 Why a human quits and a model doesn't 08:50 Wrong ideas pollute your context window 11:45 Why math papers are bad training data 16:20 Nobody knows how to stack spheres in high dimensions 18:28 The orange-stacking proof 21:04 The 1970s Russian paper nobody could beat 24:14 The function that won a Fields Medal 27:09 How Astra beat the sphere-stacking record 29:20 Why error correction is sphere packing in disguise 35:15 The breakthrough Astra almost didn't bother with 39:22 Solving harder problems means it has better taste 41:00 One model for taste, one for the grind 44:40 Astra found an infinite group no finite one can imitate 52:00 250 pages of quantum complexity, or 15 of group theory 56:18 Only humans write 200-page proofs 1:00:38 What changes when proving stops being the bottleneck 1:02:44 The problems AI may never solve YouTube: youtube.com/watch?v=1JvyLG… @mehtaab_sawhney @MarkSellke @OpenAI @lishali88 Your browser does not support the video tag. 🔗 View on Twitter 🔗 View Quoted Tweet 💬 9 🔄 1 ❤️ 30 👀 9812 📊 7 ⚡