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AI数学证明缺乏数学品味

friends are regularly surprised when i say i don’t think math is (yet) “solved,” so in the wake of t...

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Thom Wolf分析AI数学证明的局限,指出AI虽能解决复杂问题,但缺乏数学品味和深层理解。

Thom Wolf指出AI在数学领域取得显著进展,如NS问题反例证明。这些成果展示了AI在特定任务上超越人类的能力。然而,AI目前主要擅长"在草垛中寻找针"式的反例证明,而非数学家追求的"优雅"、"丰硕"和"令人兴奋"的深层理解。AI仍缺乏数学家所依赖的数学品味,难以区分优美论证与普通论证。

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friends are regularly surprised when i say i don’t think math is (yet) “solved,” so in the wake of t...

friends are regularly surprised when i say i don’t think math is (yet) “solved,” so in the wake of the ns result i figured i’d explain this take a bit more widely. first, this is massively impressive and clearly an example of AI being, in some respects, far more powerful than the human mind. the team deserves huge praise for attempting and succeeding at this. i’d love to read a technical report on the project (one can always hope :) but second, here again we ended up with a counterexample rather than a full proof: option C won the NS problem by proving the conjecture false (which was one valid way to solve the problem for sure) notice a pattern in many of the recent frontier results in ai for math? a striking number involve counterexamples or finding a needle in a haystack. now don’t get me wrong: this is extraordinarily hard and commendable. but it is only one aspect of mathematicians’ work. Math is also about: - finding deep, general mathematical understanding and explanations within proofs - revisiting proven results to find more « elegant » proofs - proposing new conjectures and hypotheses that might open « fruitful » directions - taking the leap of faith of proposing entirely new, « exciting » research programs that may take decades to bear fruit you may say these are simply further increments on the same intelligence scale, and perhaps point 2 above is already within the reach of current models. possibly but you could also see this string of results as an extraordinarily powerful, massively parallel extension of search: explore the haystack, find the needle i.e. the counterexample that breaks the conjecture. that would already be remarkable. but it would still leave open whether models understand the words I emphasized above: « elegant », « fruitful », « exciting ». as tristan put it in his brief report: “the first llm generated proof levent sent me was the most horrendous i have ever read.” despite their formidable technical abilities, models still seem to lack something mathematicians rely on constantly: a type of mathematical taste. the ability to distinguish a beautiful argument from a merely valid one, a fertile idea from a sterile one. i’d be very curious to ask gpt or claude what they think of the result they just proved. do they find it elegant? if they ignore all the human noise about it on the web and history of math, do they appreciate the result and the path to it more than other proofs? my suspicion is that, outside of the human knowledge that this is an important millennium prize problem, it may not 100% register it as fundamentally different from thousands of other proofs. or, more intriguingly, perhaps the beauty they find in mathematics is actually alien to our own sense of mathematical beauty, some « horrendous » proof to us might be deeply satisfying to them… all this to say that we might have significant progress to make in ai for math before declaring the field “solved,” (as too many are posting). in the meantime, ai will be an extraordinary collaborator for mathematicians. i just hope access to these tools be as widely shared as possible (so that you don’t need a Leven or Sebastien working in a big lab to help you), and that companies stop using mathematics primarily as a demonstration of prowess in their private race. OpenAI @OpenAI We’re sharing a solution to the Navier-Stokes Millennium Prize Problem, one of the deepest problems at the frontier of mathematics. The proof was produced by a group of agents, using an OpenAI next-generation model significantly more capable than GPT-6 Astra. The problem concerns whether the description of smooth three-dimensional fluid motion modeled by the Navier-Stokes equations can break down. It has remained unresolved for roughly 90 years. 🔗 View Quoted Tweet 💬 0 🔄 0 ❤️ 1 👀 268 ⚡