Steven Sinofsky 与 Aaron Levie 对谈：Agent 集群将冲击企业安全模型

Steven Sinofsky and Aaron Levie on the assumption behind enterprise security: people do the right thing 99% of the time, and agents are about to break it. Steven: "What AI can do is try all of those things in a very short time. It doesn't get tired. It doesn't get bored." "You now have to look at every single API and every single service you're running internally on your network." "Nobody thinks their internal GitHub, internal Slack, or internal finance expense tool is vulnerable to a denial-of-service attack. But swarms literally look like a denial-of-service attack." "Now we need a whole layer internally that is tracking way more about what authentications are being done and what APIs are being done." Aaron: "You kind of got by with information security on the fact that most people will do the right thing 95% to 99% of the time." "All these systems are basically open to whoever wants to access them, or one tap on the shoulder and then you have access." "Agent swarms completely flip that because these are roaming drones, times 10,000. They don't get bored. They will easily mistake a good task for a bad one and vice versa. The data security in our systems is going to have a huge upgrade moment." @stevesi @levie Your browser does not support the video tag. 🔗 View on Twitter a16z @a16z Box CEO Aaron Levie, Steven Sinofsky, and Martin Casado join Erik Torenberg to discuss "We Must Pace the Frontier," the upcoming AI election in 2028, and Jev: They argue that most of today's AI regulation debate is happening before anyone has defined the risks being regulated. Every prior wave, from computer viruses to aviation, built its safety standards after learning how the technology actually failed. Then it gets concrete. Agents don't get tired, run at enormous scale, and probe systems in ways employees never could, which may mean rethinking permissions, authentication, and the security stack itself. They close on why AI innovation may increasingly happen outside the frontier labs, in the software built around the models. 00:50 "We Must Pace the Frontier" 03:50 Do the labs believe their own x-risk talk? 06:49 If it's existential, nationalize it 11:32 "You're asking us to regulate you?" 12:08 2028 as the AI election 18:50 Tech never learned to navigate regulation 25:50 The law that came from one 1983 hack 28:39 Noam Brown's heat exfiltration idea 32:30 Cold War covert channel stories 34:35 Agent swarms look like a DoS attack 41:25 Sinofsky's fear: GDPR for AI 46:20 No jets if the FAA started in 1910 48:38 Jev: decision engines vs. chatbots 53:01 Labs build beings, software needs tools YouTube: youtu.be/TLJNJDf2XGo @levie @stevesi @martin_casado @eriktorenberg Your browser does not support the video tag. 🔗 View on Twitter 🔗 View Quoted Tweet 💬 4 🔄 3 ❤️ 7 👀 5666 📊 4 ⚡