DeepSeek V4.1 低价策略或挤压西方托管与国内对手生存空间
这条帖子把 DeepSeek V4.1 的超低价拆成了一盘棋:压价、锁推理栈、自建 Ascend 算力,读完你会重新理解国产模型怎么打价格战。
一位 X 用户分析 DeepSeek V4.1 的定价逻辑:其 API 足够便宜且无附加条件,可能让托管 Kimi K3($3/$15)等竞品的服务失去商业价值。V4.1 Flash 要达到该利润率需要一整台 NVL72 GB200 机柜,这意味着大量共置 GPU 将退出零售市场,neocloud 运营商将因此提高报价。文中还推测 DeepSeek 围绕华为 Ascend 构建自有算力,DeepInfer 推理方案也基本只适配 V4.1 系列模型,最终可能由 DeepSeek 定义中国 AI 上下游生态。
> Am I being a schizo to think that this could be a Chinese government ploy Yes. Meds, now. But there does exist a cynical read of DeepSeek's moves. Because V4.1 line is very strong, cheap and has zero strings attached, they destroy the case for hosting anything like K3 ($3/$15) by Western partners, so starve their domestic rivals of revenue. Moreover DeepInfer is useless for anything not shaped just like V4.1 (so, it'll be DeepSeek's models and finetunes). They also make compute ownership more valuable by having created mutual knowledge about its profitability even at "shockingly low" prices. Frontier labs and hyperscalers already understood how valuable compute is, so they can't go harder on securing allocation, but neoclouds will now ask premium. Flash, in effect, requires a full NVL72 GB200 rack to hit these margins. V4.1 Pro and Ultra (hypothetical for now) will make the issue even more pronounced. When you need a whole cluster to run an 8T DeepSeek model efficiently, *but* it prints you like $40/GPU/hour, this removes a lot of colocated GPUs from easy access. And DeepSeek had little hope to tap into this pool, so they lose nothing, gain mindshare and keep building their new power base around Ascend, which will also become increasingly Whale-shaped due to co-design. In the end, DeepSeek will have defined the entire upstream and downstream AI ecosystem in China, harvesting a tiny slice of the profit in the process.
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