Ling(蚂蚁系)发了 3.1-Flash,有人拿它和 DeepSeek V4.1-Flash、Kimi K3-Flash 类比,可以看看这条讨论。
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博主在猜 DeepSeek V4.1 Pro 的预训练量会破 50T tokens,还拿 Microsoft 的 MAU 和 OpenAI 的规模做对比,算力党可以看看。
这条帖子把 DeepSeek V4.1 的超低价拆成了一盘棋:压价、锁推理栈、自建 Ascend 算力,读完你会重新理解国产模型怎么打价格战。
PyTorch 官方的 TorchTitan 大更新,DeepSeek-V4 和 Qwen3.5 都能跑 5D 并行了,Muon 优化器还能提速 79%,训大模型的得看看。
有人算账说 Claude 订阅可能不赚钱,10 美元的 OpenCode Go 却塞了大量 V4.1F token,连 DeepSeek 都用不完,可以看看这笔账怎么算的。
DeepSeek 新版 Flash 模型上架阿里云了,1M 上下文还能跑多模态,单任务才 $0.20,写代码刷 DeepSWE 拿了 77 分。
有人拿 dsh-purge 测了 DeepSeek V4.1 F-1017,发现它对越狱攻击有点抵抗力了,想看国产模型安全性的可以看看
The cost crossover at 6.8K tokens/s/chip reframes the Ascend-versus-Blackwell debate from raw benchmark losses to workload-dependent economics, suggesting DeepSeek could run its API on a sub-US$1B Blackwell cluster while pivoting post-training to Ascend. Practitioners tracking inference infrastructure or Huawei's CANN ecosystem get a rare concrete per-chip price and throughput comparison. The proposed 128-chip Ascend supernode topology has no Nvidia equivalent, which matters for anyone planning large-scale decode deployments.
有人在对比 DeepSeek V4 和 GPT 的 KV 缓存开销,GPT 那 272K 压缩上限被吐槽了,搞推理部署的可以看看这段讨论。
Open-source inference stacks closing the gap with a lab's proprietary serving setup changes the economics of self-hosting large MoE models. Teams weighing DeepSeek's API against running their own GPUs can use these Wide-EP and EPLB results to estimate revenue per GPU at off-peak prices. The GB200 and GB300 benchmarks also give infrastructure planners concrete throughput targets for the latest NVIDIA hardware.
有人算了笔账:DeepSeek 的低价不是能力上限,是算力卡脖子,1GW 集群能做什么说得挺细
DeepSeek V4.1 Flash 出了去审查版 GGUF,拒答率直接归零,MMLU 还从 86.0 涨到 86.6,想本地跑的可以去试试。
DeepSeek 在知乎自曝家底:V4.1 Flash 每卡每小时收入 $38,有人算出毛利率约 80%,这数据 Twitter 上根本没有。
Voxtral 3 puts Mistral within striking distance of ElevenLabs and Grok on transcription accuracy while undercutting most premium TTS providers on price, making voice AI cheaper for production workloads. Builders choosing between streaming latency and accuracy can compare the 480 ms and 960 ms settings directly. Simba 3.2 at $6.6/1M characters remains the budget alternative for cost-sensitive deployments.
DeepSeek 把自家线上推理的优化手法开源了,GPU 空等、缓存复用这些细节都写了,自建集群的团队直接抄作业。
DeepSeek 新版 V4.1 Flash 1017 在多步网络安全任务上跑赢了开 Daybreak 的 GPT 6 Sol,测试帖细节可以看看。
The notable result is efficiency: matching frontier models on agent benchmarks while emitting far fewer tokens per task, which directly cuts inference cost for agentic workflows. Developers running local agent stacks can fit this open model on one RTX 4090 and get longer sessions via the MLA version. Teams choosing between open small models and GPT-6 Luna now have benchmark-level evidence that post-trained Qwen variants compete on most agent tasks.
DeepSeek 把自家生产环境的推理引擎 DeepInfer 开源了,能看懂官方 API 为什么便宜,想自己部署模型的人值得翻翻代码。
DeepSeek 把自家线上用的推理引擎 DeepInfer 开源了,单卡聊天 325 tok/s,64 张 Blackwell 跑到 170 万 tok/s,想自建推理服务的可以看看。
DeepSeek 把自家用在生产环境的推理引擎开源了,还兼容华为昇腾 950 芯片,看推理优化的人可以拆开研究。
The back-of-envelope math suggests DeepSeek's RL training pipeline is compute-bound at the GPU level, not CPU-bound, which changes how analysts should read its published infrastructure claims. Investors and policy watchers tracking US export-control impact on Chinese labs can use the 3,000-GPU figure as a yardstick for scaling bottlenecks. Compare it with NVIDIA Blackwell allocation tiers announced for US hyperscalers.
博主实测了 MiniMax M3.1-Flash,还和 DeepSeek V4.1-Flash-1017 做了同题对比,看看到底谁更听话更好用。
DeepSeek 把自家跑 V4.1-Flash 的生产推理栈开源了,Apache 2.0 随便用,做私有化部署和算力成本核算的团队值得看看源码。
DeepSeek 把跑 V4.1 Flash 的自家推理框架 DeepInfer 开源了,支持推测解码,还能跑昇腾,自建推理服务的可以看看。
DeepSeek 把自家跑 V4.1 Flash 的推理框架 DeepInfer 开源了,支持英伟达和昇腾双平台,自建部署的朋友可以直接拿去用。
DeepSeek 把自家的推理引擎 DeepInfer 开源了,还是基于 vLLM 做的,做推理部署的同学可以看看它有什么新思路。
A 0.5B model beating much larger commercial systems on pronunciation suggests small, MIT-licensed TTS can now be self-hosted for production voice applications at minimal compute cost. Developers building voice agents or dubbing pipelines in the region can download both variants from Hugging Face and run them locally, avoiding per-character API fees from providers like ElevenLabs. The main trade-off is that closed models still lead overall, with Ming-3.0-tts only #13 on Controlled Voice.
有人实测 deepseek-v4.1-flash-1017,说 Agentic Coding 从 GROK-4.6 水平直接追上国产旗舰,还发现了行为变保守、预算控制的问题。
The same serving stack now optimises both NVIDIA and AMD paths, giving operators a concrete reason to benchmark MI355X deployments against GB300 rather than defaulting to CUDA. Teams running agentic inference traces can enable the mode through SGLang and expect P90 latency gains without changing models. The plugin system also means third-party kernels — starting with GLM-5.3, K3, and MiniMax M3 — will arrive without waiting for a core release.
医疗对话模型排行榜上线了,GPT-6 Astra 和 DeepSeek V4.1 Flash 的分数、成本对比都有,选医疗模型前可以看看。
DeepSeek 推了 V4.1 Flash 1017 新权重,Databricks 上能直接调了,写代码、跑智能体和看图任务都比之前强,用 Databricks 的可以试试。
DeepSeek 这版 Flash 模型在 Agent Arena 拿下开源第一,跑任务成本只有 GPT-6.1 Sol 的四分之一左右,写网页还追平了闭源大模型,做智能体的可以看看。
DeepSeek 更新了 V4.1 Flash,智能指数涨到 45 分,追平 GLM-5.3 成开源第二,幻觉还少了好多,价格没变。
Fish Audio 的 Drama 3 冲上开源 TTS 第一名,发音还赢了 ElevenLabs v4,创始人还讲了怎么把发布帖做到 1300 万浏览。
Efficiency is the headline: the model used ~189M output tokens versus 324M for GLM-5.3-Flash, so low cost comes from token frugality as much as pricing. Its 93% hallucination rate on AA-Omniscience means teams should add verification layers for factual workloads. An open-weights release on 23 October 2026 would make it directly comparable with DeepSeek's open models for ASEAN startups building on local hosting.
Cache hit rate alone is a poor proxy for cost: models with nearly identical hit rates showed a more than seven-fold gap in what users actually paid versus list price, making DeepSeek's pricing structure unusually favourable for long agent tasks. Teams deploying office agents in China can use the per-model effective-cost figures to pick cheaper backends, with LobsterAI reachable via desktop, WeChat and Feishu. The report is self-reported product data, so treat the absolute numbers as one product's view rather than market-wide evidence.
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